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Anthony Robbins: “Any belief I hold I call it a lie to remind myself it might be false”. Can religion agree?

February 28th, 2009
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one special dude asked:


Any and all beliefs exist for creation of experiences, or experiences are at least a byproduct of them.

Beliefs are limiting factors, just like not having enough specific knowledge in an area will prevent you from being able to be employed in that area (i.e. You cannot be employed as a Mechanical Engineer without the equivalent of a Bachelor’s Degree)

Beliefs help you interpret (draw meaning from) your observations and input of senses, stimulated by the universe around us (or matrix supercomputers ;-). Why not make the best meaning you can?

They are an algorithm/automated program of the mind, helping you make choices that affect the outcomes of/create results in your day-to-day life.

I have found, however, that people who submit their ability to reason to the belief system of someone else (i.e. book/manifesto; The Bible, The Koran, The Book of Mormon, The Communist Manifesto, etc), are submitting themselves to a belief system that might not be true, and is almost absolutely unreliable/untrue.

How then, can you simply accept it as fact without thinking for yourself? Although, I suppose, my belief system is as good as yours. But why do people go around trying to shove their belief system down other people’s throats? (or in ears, rather) Because it’s part of their belief system to do that, as a way of perpetuating and expanding that belief system!

How’s that for trying to control the masses/population?

Isn’t religion just another fear tactic, a primitive form of government?

You laugh at a caveman who believed the dinosaur-god would destroy earth if he didn’t pray every day and make human sacrifices at night, and yet you do very similar things!

Case in point: Why would you choose to believe one of any number of 300-5000 year old books/belief systems/manifestos, when you can actually fix the world by changing it to a set of beliefs that will help IMPROVE the world, instead of destroy it with intolerance, hatred, and hell-bent distruction and tribulation?

And why is it that the modern man still believes earthquakes are an act of God? How primitive your beliefs are my good man! (or woman, respectively, even though most religions don’t respect women)
“I don’t think you understood your own quote !!

It is a denial of the mind to reach Truth. That’s it, a bald unsubstantiated claim — to be accepted as Truth (ironically).

You deserve to fall for that, because it also misses the point that the Will is involved.”

I did notice that, that is why I call his philosophy a lie too. =D

He also pointed out that you can choose to believe whatever you want, but why wouldn’t you choose to believe in something that empowers you so you can will things into existance?

You would, from my viewpoint/belief, except that you fear the consequences of making your own choices and being responsible for them, ultimately because religious dogma [imo, once again] has provoked you to fear something that might not even exist.

I don’t believe living in fear, under the power of a possibly imaginary thing or being is how I should live my life.

“It might not work for you, but it works for me! and it just don’t make sense to me”–Toby Keith

MAUDE

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  1. Ex_Pro_and_Ex_Con
    March 3rd, 2009 at 21:24 | #1

    I don’t think you understood your own quote !!

    It is a denial of the mind to reach Truth. That’s it, a bald unsubstantiated claim — to be accepted as Truth (ironically).

    You deserve to fall for that, because it also misses the point that the Will is involved.

    It is natural for the mind to believe and for the will to love; so that, for want of true objects, they must attach themselves to false.
    Pascal

    …Let them at least learn what is the religion they attack, before attacking it. If this religion boasted of having a clear view of God, and of possessing it open and unveiled, it would be attacking it to say that we see nothing in the world which shows it with this clearness. But since, on the contrary, it says that men are in darkness and estranged from God, that He has hidden Himself from their knowledge, that this is in fact the name which He gives Himself in the Scriptures, Deus absconditus,and finally, if it endeavors equally to establish these two things: that God has set up in the Church visible signs to make Himself known to those who should seek Him sincerely, and that He has nevertheless so disguised them that He will only be perceived by those who seek Him with all their heart; what advantage can they obtain, when, in the negligence with which they make profession of being in search of the truth, they cry out that nothing reveals it to them; and since that darkness in which they are, and with which they upbraid the Church, establishes only one of the things which she affirms, without touching the other, and, very far from destroying, proves her doctrine?

    In order to attack it, they should have protested that they had made every effort to seek Him everywhere, and even in that which the Church proposes for their instruction, but without satisfaction. If they talked in this manner, they would in truth be attacking one of her pretensions. But I hope here to show that no reasonable person can speak thus, and I venture even to say that no one has ever done so. We know well enough how those who are of this mind behave. They believe they have made great efforts for their instruction when they have spent a few hours in reading some book of Scripture and have questioned some priests on the truths of the faith. After that, they boast of having made vain search in books and among men. But, verily, I will tell them what I have often said, that this negligence is

  2. Not interested in hiding today
    March 5th, 2009 at 11:38 | #2

    Actually…the Qur’an says that people should strive to be educated.
    So that means that thing in my religion SHOULD (and do) make sense to me before I apply them.
    I believe that living justly is the way people should live, and that the principles laid out in Islam are an attempt at just that. Muslims are not utopic–they know the earth is not and will not be perfect, but if we regulate the way we interact with each other, then we can hope to live justly.
    For example: Religion is also not the source of hatred. In fact the Qur;an says that God made people different so that they would know one another (not kill or hate each other).
    You have to believe that the message of all religions is inherently negative for it to also be manipulative. Islam is a highly disorganized religion that demands people have a personal and intense relationship with a being that is higher than they are so that we can control a very obviously negative thing: our egos!

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